Cloud was supposed to simplify security. Instead, as Pierre Noel puts it, we’ve created a Frankenstein’s monster, a system so flexible and configurable that it often overwhelms the very teams meant to secure it.

In this episode, recorded live at our CloudHub Berlin event, Pierre brings one of the widest perspectives in modern cybersecurity. As CISO EMEA at Expel, and with a career spanning Microsoft, Huawei, Airbus, and advisory roles to national cybersecurity authorities, he’s seen cloud transformation from every angle: technical, political, operational, and geopolitical.

We dive into why traditional security thinking collapses in the cloud, how identity and configuration drift now drive most incidents, and why CISOs must rethink the mental models they carried from the datacenter era. Pierre also breaks down the real state of AI in security, why attackers benefit more from it today than defenders, and how security teams should realistically integrate automation without falling for hype.

But the heart of the conversation is human. Pierre shares scars from decades of work: moments where boards dismissed risks, where technical teams misjudged business priorities, and where psychology mattered more than any tool. His message is clear: behind every incident is a human, and behind every resilient organization is a CISO who understands people as well as technology.

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Release Date: 19/11/2025, 12:45:36